The Great Sign September 23 2017



On September 23-24, 2017 there will be an astronomical event in the sky involving the constellation Virgo which looks remarkably like the ‘great sign’ that is described in Revelation 12:1 when reading the prophecy as literally as possible. September 23, 2017. 'With Merkel there is a sense that there is no great problem that she couldn't overcome, and that she's a politician you can trust.' Sign up for the email. The 'Great Sign' that the Apostle John saw in Revelation 12:1-2 appears to have occurred from September 23rd to 24th in 2017 (Tishrei 3 on the Jewish calendar). I have identified several problems with the supposed sign of September 23, 2017. However, there are other, broader problems with it. One of the purposes that God ordained for the stars is for them to be signs ( Genesis 1:14). On September 23, 2017, Mercury, Mars, and Venus will be lined up between Regulus and the left shoulder of Virgo. When added to the nine stars of Leo, including Regulus, those three planets (also called “wandering stars”) will complete a crown of twelve stars. But there's a big problem with that.

Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.

And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born. She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne. Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.

  • Revelation 12:1-6

On September 23-24, 2017 there will be an astronomical event in the sky involving the constellation Virgo which looks remarkably like the ‘great sign’ that is described in Revelation 12:1 when reading the prophecy as literally as possible.

This event is similar to the Star of Bethlehem theory which was developed around 2001 by lawyer and professor Rick Larson of Texas A&M University using today’s modern tools of astronomical software like Stellarium, which accurately displays what the sky looked like or will look like from any location on planet Earth, for any date.

The compelling story that has been developing for the last 3 years is only becoming more interesting and is worthy of consideration.

Before I begin to share the story I want to emphasize that what is being discussed has everything to do with astronomy and Biblical prophecy, but has nothing at all to do with astrology (fortune telling by the stars) or date setting which is the confident proclamation that the Rapture of the Church is set to occur on a specific upcoming date and time. To be fair, this story is conjecture, as any opinions put forth have been formed on the basis of incomplete information.

First, let’s start with a few scriptures to keep in mind while considering this.

Great Sign In Heaven September 23 2017

It isthe glory of God to conceal a matter,
But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.

Proverbs 25:2

Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years;
– Genesis 1:14

“Can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades,
Or loose the belt of Orion?

Can you bring out Mazzaroth in its season?
Or can you guide the Great Bear with its cubs?

Do you know the ordinances of the heavens?
Can you set their dominion over the earth?
Job 38:31-33

So in searching out the meaning of the prophecy found in Revelation 12, we see that God placed the stars and planets first and foremost as ‘signs’. We also see that giving consideration to the Constellations is not something God prohibits, as the Hebrew word ‘Mazzaroth‘, which is only mentioned in Job 38:32, literally means the 12 signs of the Zodiac and their 36 associated constellations.

Let’s take a look at a couple of the original Hebrew word in Genesis 1:14. The word for ‘signs‘ is ‘owth‘ which means a ‘sign’, a ‘signal’, an ‘omen’, a ‘warning’. The word for ‘seasons‘ is ‘mow’ed‘, which means ‘the appointed time’, ‘sacred season’, ‘set feast’, the ‘appointed time or signal’. Keep these two words in mind.

On November 20, 2016 the planet Jupiter enters the torso area of the constellation Virgo, the Virgin. Historically, Jupiter is referred to as ‘The King Planet’ by many cultures. The Hebrew name for Jupiter is ‘Tzedek‘ which means righteousness, as in Melchi-zedek, the High Priest. So what we have here is a picture of the conception of the King of Righteousness entering the womb of the Virgin. However, while in exile on the island of Patmos, John the Revelator was given this vision some 80 years after the birth of Christ, so if the picture is prophetic it must have some other significance, as it is obviously not foretelling the birth of Christ.

Now the planet Jupiter starts to do something interesting after entering Virgo’s womb that is called ‘Retrograde’, which as a result of Earth’s elliptical orbit, which causes Jupiter to appears to move back and forth within Virgo’s womb for a period of 9 months, 2 weeks and 6 days…which is 41 weeks, or 293 days total, which is the normal gestation or period of time between conception and birth for the development of a human baby. On September 9, 2017 Jupiter the Righteous King is birthed by exiting from in between the legs of Virgo.

2 weeks later, on September 23, 2017 we see what is being called the Revelation 12 Sign appear in the heavens. Using Stellarium software, if you have enough patience, it can be shown that this particular event has not happened since the birth of Christ, and does not happen again for at least several hundreds of years in the future. At some point, looking for another occurrence just seems to be a fruitless endeavor. Specifically, what happens is the constellation Virgo is clothed in the Sun, with the Moon at her feet, and above her head are a crown of 12 stars comprised of the 9 stars in the constellation of Leo the Lion of Judah, and the 3 planets Mercury, Mars and Venus. Now understand this, 2,000 years ago people did not know what a planet was. Their understanding was that these celestial objects were bright like stars, but unlike the stars which were fixed in their relative positions, they moved across the sky, so the word ‘asteres planetai1 was used to describe the planets, which in Greek literally means ‘wandering stars’. So here we have 9 stars + 3 wandering stars for a total of 12 stars above Virgo’s head, just as is described in Revelation 12.

Now September 23, 2017 is NOT just any ordinary day. This happens to be Feast of Trumpets or Yom Teruah, 1 of the 7 moedim, or ‘appointed times‘ that God established in Leviticus 23:2. These festivals are often referred to as the Jewish Feast Days, and commemorate specific times and event’s in Israel’s history when the Messiah, Jesus / Yeshua, met with His people. Of the 7 significant Appointed Times; 3 are in the Spring, 1 in the Summer, and 3 are in the Fall. In order, they are:

  1. Passover (Pesach) … Jesus died on Passover.
  2. Feast of Unleavened Bread (Chag HaMotzi) … Jesus was entombed on the Feast of Unleavened Bread
  3. Feast of First Fruits (Yom HaBikkurim) … Jesus rose from the dead on the Feast of First Fruits
  4. Pentecost (Feast of Weeks or Shavuot) … the Church was born.
  5. Feast of Trumpets (Yom Teruah, also known as Yom HaKeseh which is the ‘Hidden Day’) … thought to signify the Rapture.
  6. Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur) … thought represent Israel being reconciled to their Messiah, Yeshua.
  7. Feast of Tabernacles (Succot) … the 2nd Coming, when Jesus / Yeshua returns to Earth with His Church, to defeat Satan and to rule from Jerusalem.

Since God fulfilled the first 4 Appointed Times to the day, and since God is a God of order, is it unreasonable to expect that He will follow through with the pattern He has already established, and fulfill the last 3 Appointed Times to the very day?

Part of the difficulty in considering this possibility is tied to the Church having lost touch with her Jewish roots these last 2,000 years. Jesus is a Jew, the disciples were Jews, and the Bible was written by Jews. Another part of the difficulty in understanding the Bible to it’s fullest is that we read the Bible in English, which is translated from Latin, which is translated from Greek. It really helps to use a tool like BlueLetterBible.org to dig into the original Greek, or original Hebrew in the case of the Old Testament, and to search the usage of specific words throughout the Bible.

The predictable, bible based refutation to the notion that God might actually Rapture His Church on Feast of Trumpets is based on the verse in Matthew 24:36, “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven,but My Father only.

However, according to Jewish tradition, the phrase “no one knows the day or the hour” is a Jewish idiom which would have been commonly understood by those who Jesus was speaking to, as they were all Jews. The meaning of this phrase relates to the Jewish calendar which is based on a 30 day Lunar cycle. Each month, two reliable witnesses would look to the sky for evidence of the first sliver of the New Moon. Having not seen the New Moon, the two witnesses would say, “No one knows the day or the hour”. Once the New Moon was spotted, the two witnesses would report it to the High Priest at the Temple, who would independently question them before officially proclaiming the first day of the new month. Once the new month was proclaimed fires would be lit on top of mountains within line of sight to spread the message throughout the land.

[ continuation of this article will include the following ]

September 23 2017 Nasa

  • Discuss the meaning of Feast of Trumpets
  • Yom HaKeseh, the Hidden Day, why this Feast must be 2 days long based on sighting of the New Moon by two reliable witnesses.
  • No one knows the Day or the Hour … common interpretation compared to the Jewish idiom of the ‘watchers’.
  • Discuss how the Virgin represents Israel, the male child represents the Church, and how the dragon may possibly be symbolically collective as well.
  • The Church is referred to in the ‘male’ form in – 1 Thessalonians 5:1-6, as ‘Sons of Light’ and ‘Sons of the Day’.
  • G.H. Pember considered this in his book ‘Earth’s Earliest Ages’ copyright 1876.
  • The word ‘harpazo’ is used to describe the Rapture, not the Ascension.
  • Daniel was told that ‘knowledge would increase’..that the vision was sealed up until the End Times… isn’t it now being unsealed?
  • Touch on Daniel’s 70th Week cracked by Sir Robert Anderson of Scotland Yard. (LINK TO SEPARATE ARTICLE)
  • Explanation of Tribulation being a Week of Years, with the Mid-Tribulation event being the Abomination of Desolation.
  • Touch on the Incredible parallels between the traditional Jewish wedding and Christ the Groom coming for The Church, His Bride. (LINK TO SEPARATE ARTICLE)
  • Interesting that Comet P67, the Rosetta Comet, is at Virgo’s feet next to the Moon on 09/23/2017 … too much for coincidence, but what does it mean?

THE TRANSLATION OF JUPITER

Signs of the Coming Births

by Luis B. Vega
vegapost@hotmail.com
www.PostScripts.org for online PDF illustration in Chart section

‘To the woman He said, “I will greatly multiply your pain in childbirth.
In pain you will bring forth children; Your desire will be [to be like]
your husband, but he will rule over you.”’ –Genesis 3:16

The purpose of this study is to show the actual retrograde and ’gestation’ period to begin on November 20, 2016 of Jupiter in the ‘womb’ of Virgo concerning the Revelation 12 Virgo Sign. Before Jupiter goes into its Retrograde, it starts slowing down just before approaching the constellation line demarking the ‘womb’ of Virgo on February 6, 2017. The King Planet or in this case the ‘Manchild’ enters into its Retrograde. A Retrograde occurs when a celestial body, a planet for the most part appears to traverse or move ‘backwards’ in the sky. This is due to the varying orbital position and speed of such bodies in relationship to one’s position of observation from Earth. Jupiter keeps moving in a backwards direction until it appears to remains in a stationary position for some time before it starts moving forward again.

Based on various sources, the planet Jupiter is associated with metaphorical attributes. For example the planet corresponds to the Center Stem of ‘Planetary Menorah’ based on the spectrum of light and color of each of the 7 main planets. This depiction excludes the Sun, Moon and Earth. Biblically specific, it is referred to as the King Planet and the Planet of the Messiah. In relation to the astronomical alignment to specifically occur on September 23, 2017 just after Rosh HaShanah, it is depicting the Jupiter ‘Pregnancy’ as the Manchild that is caught-up or raptured to the Throne Room of YHVH in Heaven. As noted in other studies, recently Jupiter had various electro-magnetic storms in its northern polar region. Such activity produced an Aurora ‘Crown’. Some suggest it was or is a depiction of a typology of a Royal Crown or Crown of Thorns, or even a Kippah perhaps.

As far as the correlation of Jupiter with Jesus Christ, there are some peculiar attributes that are uncanny. For example, the planet is striped. This depiction speaks of the prophetic verse that states that ‘by His stripes’ we are healed. This plane was also ‘pierced’ as with a long ‘lance’ as comet Shoemaker-Levy bombarded the southern region or ‘heel’ of Jupiter. This has echoes of the prophetic battle of the Seeds in which the Seed of Satan or Lucifer would ‘bruise’ His heel but the Seed of the Woman the Messiah or Manchild would crush the head of the Serpent or Lucifer. The comet broke up into 21 fragments (7-7-7) as in 5-777? This event was also approximately 7 years from 9-11. The Virgo Sign configures relatively every year in either September or October as the Sun and the Moon passes along the Ecliptic. What is apparently unique for September 23, 2017 is that accompanying alignments and conjunctions make it stand out.

What is interesting is that at the midpoint of Jupiter’s Retrograde, occurs midpoint on April 10, 2017 which is Passover. Most notably the Retrograde of Jupiter does appear to depict a ‘celestial pregnancy’ within the ‘womb’ of Virgo for approximately 9 months. This celestial Retrograde is what signals this Virgo Sign different than all the rest in history, past, present and future. It takes about 12 years for it to traverse the 12 Signs. However to have it synchronized to the Virgo Sign and Comet 67p adds great significance. If there will be any prophetic significance that remains to be seen. Many are speculating that the Virgo Sign is insinuating the Rapture. Others are speculating that the Virgo Sign of 2017 is a Mid-Tribulation Rapture.

Still others believe it will be inconsequential and are skeptical as they were with the Tetrad Blood Moon phenomenon. As with the Tetrads, there is already much confusion of what takes place where and when concerning the Virgo Sign. For one, the ‘Manchild’ correlating to the ‘birth of Jupiter does not occur on the 23rd of September but on the 9th, some 13 days prior. The Virgo Sign cannot be a Mid-Tribulation Rapture time marker as that would mean the Tribulation started back around 2013. Many however insist the Tribulation period has started. The following time markers will highlight key time markers and show that the position of the ‘birthing’ location is in approximate phi ratio to the ‘Womb of Virgo’.

Revelation

November 20, 2016
‘impregnated’
Jupiter enters ‘womb’ based on the constellation lines

November24, 2016
Start of Chanukah based on the Creation Calendar
Conjunction with Moon

December 24, 2016
Start of Chanukah based on the Rabbinical Calendar
Chanukah

April10, 2017
Passover on the Rabbinical Calendar

May 16, 2017
Jupiter crosses out of the ‘womb’ line demarcation due to its Retrograde

July 11, 2017
Jupiter crosses the ‘womb’ line demarcation due to its Retrograde

September 9, 2017
‘Birth of Manchild’ or Translation of Jupiter

September 23, 2017
Position at Sign Maximum as Jupiter will be 13 days out of ‘womb’ by then

The

September 23 2017 7000 Years

December 1, 2017
Jupiter leaves Virgo


Birth of the Manchild

As far as Biblical ‘Signs’ go, this study strongly suggests that in principle, the actual Sign given in the Bible is not the ‘Event’ itself. A ‘Sign’ ascribes a significance or a forewarning as would street signs of pending circumstances. If something or someone is to be ‘birthed’, this event is just signaling that the event is perhaps on the horizon and about to occur. Many others are teaching that the Virgo Sign to occur on 2017 will be the Rapture that will start the Tribulation period. It is not the Rapture event that will start the Tribulation period but the confirming of the Covenant between the Israel and the Many.

However this Virgo Sign is a ‘prophetic template’ that can be applied on many levels, to an extent. It speaks of Jesus Christ’s works as a type. On another level of possible prophetic meaning, this Virgo Sign could be related to Israel or a completed gestation period of a ‘body’ associated to Christ’s Body. On the other hand, it can also be associated with the ‘birthing’ of the New World Order and/or its ‘Christ’ Manchild; in this case the AntiChrist.

This study strongly suggests that the Virgo Sign of 2017 is a prophetic motif of past, present and future Biblical fulfillment in synchronization to the whole comprehensive Plan of Redemption. This is occurring on multiple layers and aspects of who, what, where and when. For example, the Virgo Sign of 2017 appears to mirror the ‘Virgo Sign’ of Isaiah 66:6.

‘A voice of uproar from the city, a voice from the temple, the voice of the LORD who is rendering recompense to His enemies. “Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she gave birth to a boy. “Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Can a land be born in one day? Can a nation be brought forth all at once? As soon as Zion travailed, she also brought forth her sons.’

In the Isaiah passage the birth of a ‘Manchild’ prophetically occurs first as it is clearly depicting the rebirth of the regathered nation of Israel in the Last Days. This is the reverse order as the prophecy has come to pass; Israel was ‘born’ in a day as the typology of the Manchild in this case and the travailing has occurred since. This travailing is tangibly seen primarily in the Jewish-Muslim conflict that will result in the 3rd World War.

This in turn will facilitate the ‘confirming’ of the Covenant that will allow for the construction of the 3rd Temple, the New World Order and its false Messiah AntiChrist Israel will accept. What is rather ominous is the numerical attribute assigned to the verse. Although the delineation of verses by chapter and verses are not believed to be inspired, it is also canny to suspect a correlation to the Isaiah chapter and verse of 66:6 to perhaps also denoted the coming ‘birth’ of the Beast AntiChrist with his coming 666 Mark. Will the Virgo Sign of 2017 or 5777 suggests such the year to be the case in the Last Days?

The Great Sign September 23 2017 Calendar

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Astronomy sept 23 2017

Some Sources
Hebcal.com
TimeAndDate.com
TorahCalender.com
NASA.gov
Stellarium.org

*Click on the above diagram to enlarge.

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